Do small wheels make folding bikes slow?

by Peter on October 5, 2010

Folding bikes are fast too.

Folding bikes are fast too. This image is from the Brompton World Championship Race.

No way, just the opposite. Folding bikes with small wheels can actually accelerate faster than large wheel bikes and, given a well distributed gearing, go just as fast.

Take my Brompton folding bike for instance. It has 16 inch wheels and yet I can go faster on this folding bike than my full sized road bike. Why? Because it has a very high gearing. “What does that mean”, you ask. Well it’s like this:

(This paragraph is a bit technical sounding. Do you have your protractor and slide rule? Just kidding. You can skip it if you want, it’s not critical.)

Bikes have gears to make it easier to go up hill and easier to go really fast. How is this accomplished? By switching between gears of larger and smaller sizes you are actually changing what you might call your folding bike’s “theoretical wheel size.” Or more simply put, when you shift into a high-speed gear you can imagine your wheel gets much larger and therefor spins much faster on the road relative to the speed at its center. When shift into a hill climbing gear you can imagine that your wheel gets smaller and spins slower than the speed being put in. That ability to increase or decrease your speed via gears is called mechanical advantage.

Basically by raising the overall gearing on a folding bicycle with small wheels you can make it feel just like riding a large wheel folding bike (or regular bicycle for that matter). It can sometimes be difficult to get the same top speed on a folding bike without the help of an internal gear hub because the really small gears required are expensive to manufacture. High quality folding bikes should be able to go just as fast or faster than your average hybrid bike.

That said the simple simple answer is: You can go just as fast on a folding bike as you can on a regular bike. It’s all a matter of gearing.

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  • http://dynv.qc.to/ DynV

    I had a hard believing the bike store seller when he told me I could go just as fast, I thought it could go up to 80-90% but not 100% ; well because it’s not high-quality, I guess it would be 95-98%. Still 5% loss of an hour commute is only 3 minutes and that’s likely if I do a lot of high-gear riding because stop & go will likely have that difference be much less noticeable.

    • http://www.nycewheels.com Peter

      I know what you mean. The fact is, these are not racing bicycles, these are commuting bicycles. Many can go very fast but there is not so much need for that when you’re riding through city traffic. I still like to do loops around Central Park sometimes though! -Peter

  • Seth

    Hi, I’m an American ex-pat living in London and I’ve been commuting 14 miles a day (round trip) on a Brompton for about four months and I’m loving it. Best thing I did for my health (including mental) in a long time.

    Agree with what’s written above, that my Brompton is much faster off-the-line than many of the fancy racing bikes I commute with, but those folk generally overtake me and leave me behind mid-block. Certainly some are just that much stronger, but my Brompton does feel slow, and I found this discussion looking for why that is, because it doesn’t make logical sense to me that it should be.

    It *shouldn’t* be wind resistance on spokes or tread, since the relative wind speed of both max out at twice the road speed at the top of the wheel, regardless of diameter. And while the Brompton’s wheels turn at greater RPM, the spokes are shorter so in fact there should be a net *reduction* in wind resistance, I think.

    It *shouldn’t* be inertia, because in fact the smaller wheels have a much *smaller* moment arm and hence *less* inertia to overcome when accelerating (as pointed out above).

    Could it be the relatively upright riding position and hence more wind resistance against the body? Maybe.

    Okay, ultimately the bike weights 45 lbs and has three speeds. I suspect that it is the limited gearing that leaves the Bromptoneer with fewer power options and therefor at a disadvantage.

    Can anybody better explain this?

    Cheers,

    -Seth

    • http://www.nycewheels.com Peter

      Hi Seth,

      Those are all good questions. I think you hit on the main factor – wind resistance – as well as rolling resistance and gearing. If the gearing was equal between a Brompton and a road bike then you’d be able to go just as fast except that you lose some speed to the more upright position as well as the fatter tires. If you put skinny tires on it and ducked down while riding you’d be able to go much faster. But! You’d still have an additional amount of resistance from the flex in the frame. All those factors contribute to power loss in a bicycle.

      People love to get into modifying their Brompton and I am one of those. Of course it will never be quite the same as a racing road bike built for super speed, but hey you can’t fold that up either.

      -Peter

  • Seth

    Hi Peter, made me laugh; I’ve modified mtb foot straps for mine for that 100% power boost. Brilliant!

  • http://caracasplegable.blogspot.com Miguel Viamonte

    Hey! What great discussion i found! I have been thinking a lot about this “gear inches stuffs”. I also consider the wheels resistance but i have no idea how much wind resistance may affect. I have a folding bike (Tern Link d8) and i have the same question. My foldie has 85 gear inches but, happens the same, on a long straight road, any other bike left me behind by far. Even, those bike mountains with all terrain tires. I noticed that mountain bike had similar gear inches like my Tern but with smaller cranks. I understand that is a differente comparition, but now can understand some topics that go around in my head for long time. In fact, i have some posts at my blog (in spanish) talking about that(http://caracasplegable.blogspot.com). Thank you very much for your comments.
    Best Regards from Caracas Venezuela!

  • http://www.nycewheels.com Jack

    Hi Miguel, another thing that can come in to play is riding position. On many folding bikes like the Tern Link D8, that structure of the frame and handlebars makes for a more upright riding position that will have more wind resistance. This can make a big difference at speeds over 12 mph or so. On a faster folding bike like the Tern Verge X30h, you have road bike handlebars so that you can lower your center of gravity and reach those higher speeds more easily. See link for more info: http://www.nycewheels.com/tern-folding-bike-verge-x30.html Best- jack

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